This week we welcome Ren: The Girl with The Mark Co Creators/Directors/Writers, Kate Madison and Christopher Dane and current showrunner DP and Writer Neil Oseman on the show to talk about how they made two seasons of a Fantasy web series on roughly a $40k budget. After that we play another round of You’re the Expert, enjoy!

A big note for all listeners! Apple podcasts has frozen all of your downloads of the show which is killing our numbers! The way to fix that is to click the icon for the show on your phone and in the top right corner there is a down arrow icon that needs to be turned on, click on that and select 'Turn on Automatic Downloads'. If you do that, the show will be saved!